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Renjie
Posts: 133

Edited on 24-Mar-2011 11:46:47 PM
Hi guys,

I know many people here are thinking that our 11 a side training seems to be lacking of something that can improve our soccer techniques

So i has a thought in mind that how about having a different of playing style while we still can play our normal 11 a side game

1) No long goal kicks - which means we only play short passes from the goalkeepers
2) Only 1 player is allow to pressure the opponent in the opponent half, the rest of the defending players shall stay in their own half to do defending
3) Ball should be allow to go for a attack or shot on goal at the opponent's half with 10 passes made by the attacking team in their half(Of course with the pressure of the 1 of the defending team player)  

Things we can actually benefit to all players to my point of view is;
No long goal kicks
1) With no long goal kick, we can train on short goal kick in a situation where we are losing headers or ball control in the midfield
2) Learn to do proper passing and receiving of passes between defenders and midfielder( as i notices not many defenders are comfortable in controlling the ball either under pressure or no pressure at all)
3) As we know sometimes we midfield have a hard time cause we are heading the ball all the time and  we need some rest to our head sometimes too hahahaa :x

 Only 1 player is allow to pressure the opponent in the opponent half
1) to let others to have especially defenders have more touches of the ball during a 11 a side
2) instead of having almost 4 defending players pressuring the attacking team causing them to pump the ball we allow only 1 to do the pressure to let players to have a chance to get a feel of a passing game
3) with the 10 players in their defending half, players will know how to move in formation and do learn zonal marking
4) by learning zonal marking, defending players can communication each other when during defending 
 
 Ball should be allow to go for a attack or shot on goal at the opponent's half with 10 passes made by the attacking team in their half
1) Learn to open up to spaces for teammates to pass to each other and to find attacking chances rather than pumping the ball around the area
2) Learn to run towards teammates to get the ball
3) Understanding where are all our teammates positions so we can do quick passes rather than give stray passes
4) Learn to call of ball while supporting, some players are too quiet during game and seem like he do not exist in the game.



The Legend never dies


Kent
Posts: 2389

25-Mar-2011 1:04:08 AM
I like your last couple of para.

If there's no objection, how about we implement it for the first half and play our normal game in the second?

A couple of suggestions on the 3rd agenda:
- 5 passes instead of 10. The last time we had 10 passes drill, most seems to lose count.
- to be a little specific, the count is not reset until the opposition took complete possession of the ball.

Steady lar!


Kent
Posts: 2389

25-Mar-2011 1:12:51 AM
Taking this opportunity to announce the captains for this coming Sunday.

Home Team captain & vice-captain: Kelvin & Phone Mo


Steady lar!


Joseph Lee
Posts: 58

25-Mar-2011 12:20:36 PM
quote:


Originally posted by Renjie:

"...winning this training game does not earn u any money( btw we are paying to play) so lets just have a enjoyable 11 a side game in the mean time learning new things while we are playing rather than focusing winning or losing the game.

Training makes perfects.






Joseph Lee
Posts: 58

25-Mar-2011 12:29:50 PM

Quote: http://www.bettersoccercoaching.com/Article-47-20-Coaching-Soccer-coaching-drills-and-tips-for-ball-holding-basics


Soccer coaching drills and tips for ball holding basics


Get back to basic soccer skills necessary to maintain possession of the ball.


Leading figures in football point out that a lack of guidance in the junior set-up could have a long term impact on a national side’s prospects. An emphasis on the long ball game rather than a more skills-based game where the team maintains possession - is at the root of the problem.


What the players say


When ex-England international Chris Waddle went abroad training, it was not about just scoring a goal but keeping the ball. Hold it up shield it, wait for support. He found it a revelation and urged all coaches to adopt this at junior level.


Shielding the ball skills


So how do you do it? The first step is to bring the ball under control quickly. Then, you use your body/legs to get between the opponent and the ball to protect it. This is a basic soccer skill like simply stepping over the ball to shield, as well as somewhat harder like rolling/pulling the ball back behind you or to your side.


The rolling/pulling of the ball requires some work, as you need to learn to use both feet - and to switch feet. However, one of the key factors is to learn to bend the knees; get the arms out; and use body weight to push back into the opponent.


Get players to keep their bottoms down; bend the knees and push hard back into the opponent. Keep body weight on their support leg to be able to free their far foot and use it to roll the ball around.






Renjie
Posts: 133

25-Mar-2011 12:39:47 PM
quote:


Originally posted by Kent:
I like your last couple of para.

If there's no objection, how about we implement it for the first half and play our normal game in the second?

A couple of suggestions on the 3rd agenda:
- 5 passes instead of 10. The last time we had 10 passes drill, most seems to lose count.
- to be a little specific, the count is not reset until the opposition took complete possession of the ball.


i believe that time we lose count is because sometimes we just play the passes between 2 players...

In addition, i would also suggest having to make 5 passes to at least 5 different person rather than "cheat" their way through by just doing passes between 2 players and other just stand and watch.... :D


The Legend never dies


Joseph Lee
Posts: 58

25-Mar-2011 1:00:10 PM

Tips for perfect ball control


http://www.bettersoccercoaching.com/Article-70--1--Soccer-coaching-tips-for-perfect-ball-control

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Soccer coaching drill to get players passing back


Sometimes you need to get your players to pass back so they can advance forward. These soccer coaching tips and drills look at how to pass into a target man.


Key soccer coaching tip: Get your attackers to check back when they are being marked.


Playing the ball up to a target man is a great way to open up defences. You need to coach your target man to lose his marker by cutting back infield, drawing the defenders to him. By playing a one-two with one of his teammates he can then split defences and create space in the attacking area.


Creating a 3v2 situation


If you look at the diagram below, the simple pass back from the striker has created space for the ball player and the right winger. The midfield passer is past his marker and has moved into a 3v2 situation.






Joseph Lee
Posts: 58

25-Mar-2011 2:33:52 PM
An alternative to Renjie's valuable suggestion:-




Kent
Posts: 2389

25-Mar-2011 10:25:55 PM
based on what i understand from the description, can i safely say that midfielder can only support forward, but not backwards?
in another word, let the defenders deal with the situation themselves?

another criteria is passing is restricted to def<->mid & mid<->att, but disallow def<->att?

Steady lar!


Renjie
Posts: 133

25-Mar-2011 10:51:35 PM
quote:


Originally posted by Kent:
based on what i understand from the description, can i safely say that midfielder can only support forward, but not backwards?
in another word, let the defenders deal with the situation themselves?

another criteria is passing is restricted to def<->mid & mid<->att, but disallow def<->att?




er maybe that not he meant cos by right midfielders are support for all positions no matter in attacking or defending or even maintaining the ball movment in their own half....is only in very tight situation where either midfielders are all being marked or it happen to be a space upfront for strikers to run for a long pass....but we what i seen after league match no matter is S League or Epl...after defenders got the ball they normally or shld i say most of the time will pass to a midfielder then afterwards either the midfielder will start a attack or if  he has no option upfront then he will pass it back to a defender who is open and slowly build up the game.....

actually most of the goal scoring chances are made after passes starting from defenders cos every pass we made successfully will fustrate and tired out the opponent and then spaces will be open for a quick counter or long ball from the defence to the strikers.....

The Legend never dies


Jason Hee
Posts: 108

25-Mar-2011 11:22:47 PM

frankly, the common objective for most to come for sunday game is just to kick around and have some fun... I seriously think that most will not enjoy playing with so many rules... the stated model will go well only for clubs which are playing competitvely in leagues... how about having the stated training, after the sunday game, for those who are interested? :p

All good athletes make mistakes; the great ones learn to make that mistake only once. ~ Raul Lopez


Lione Yeo
Posts: 382

25-Mar-2011 11:27:06 PM
 I agree with Jason on this one.

Go hard or go home.


Ting Fu
Posts: 867

26-Mar-2011 12:01:22 AM
quote:


Originally posted by Kent:
Taking this opportunity to announce the captains for this coming Sunday.

Home Team captain & vice-captain: Kelvin & Phone Mo




Kent
Posts: 2389

26-Mar-2011 12:47:39 AM
quote:


Originally posted by Ting Fu:

wah lan......2 attackers vs 2 defenders........Zzzzzzzz........



both of them are also versatile to operate on the wings as well.

Steady lar!


francis
Posts: 33

26-Mar-2011 10:16:49 AM
I will have to pull out again this week. Ankle still no strength. Sorry guys.



Joseph Lee
Posts: 58

26-Mar-2011 5:42:02 PM
Erm...actually the idea is to let  players have a clearer pic of their roles. The restricted area of play puts more focus on the specific roles & highlight the challenges of each one. 30mins should be enough to get a good feel. 

 

To answer kent's question about defense supporting the midfield; I would suggest not at this trial stage. The exercise is let players adopt a passing habit in order to keep possession & let them find a solution to open the opposition without long overhead pass or running at defenders unnecessarily. However, Tactical dribble to open up space & time to find a pass is credible.

 

It may blur the purpose and the effectiveness of this exercise if forwards and/or defense is allowed to venture into the central zone. Let's all visualize; whether you are playing in  defense/midfield/forward: what are the scenarios you would face & how are you going to handle it?

 

Defense

You can't clear it; you can only pass to your teammate, and most probably you can't play the ball forward too. So you can only play the ball in the lateral direction, and let your fellow defender find a better angle to play the ball to the midfield...

 

Midfield

Same as above, except that you can play the ball back to the defense n start over with less pressure at the backline, plus the numerical advantage. Also, 1 midfielder (at one time) is allowed to play the ball in the forward's zone. He can either go forward and try to win in a clear 4v3 disadvantage, or play the ball back to the other midfielders n look for better chances, eg. an out of position defender.

 

Forward

Their role here is somewhat limited, but not undermined. They will share the challenge n need to work cohesively to get past 3 or more defenders. They shouldn't n can't work alone. Also, they will learn the target man role - how to ghost past defense; holding the ball n playing it into the advancing midfielder's path. Simple but quick exchange of passes form the basics of penetration.

 

Although the exercise may not be adopted in the end, I wish to say that i remember about a month back Tingfu scored a goal during training, that was the result of at least 7 passes strung involving min 4 different players. The nearest defender (3 metres away) had no chance after he received the final past. Say I'm drama-ma-ma, but the feeling of that goal - even if I didn't put it - was....damn shiok! That is Football.




Louis Song
Posts: 40

Edited on 26-Mar-2011 6:16:11 PM
I like Beatles because the ppl are friendly and down to earth and everyone come down just to play soccer and have fun on a Sunday morning. So many of you have different opinions on how training should be done but the truth is we barely have enough time for a full match.



Lione Yeo
Posts: 382

26-Mar-2011 6:52:59 PM
Imposing restrictions would limit the enjoyment for certain players, myself included. So you might say I'm a little biased on this one. I'm all for training to improve, but time constraints have to be taken into consideration, this is already barely enough time each week to get a proper game in.

Go hard or go home.


Jack Kwa
Posts: 45

27-Mar-2011 10:22:01 PM
 I personally suggest tat we have training drills b4 the training match every week as that would practice more on our dribbling skills,passing as well as shooting and team play.Maybe 45min to 1 hour tat will do .



Karnex Ko
Posts: 681

27-Mar-2011 10:35:42 PM
quote:


Originally posted by Jack Kwa:
 I personally suggest tat we have training drills b4 the training match every week as that would practice more on our dribbling skills,passing as well as shooting and team play.Maybe 45min to 1 hour tat will do .


jack as you know our usual time for training is 11am but we are unbale to have time to have this kind of training as because the pitch most likey is book by other poeple for matches. so it hard for us to conduct this training....

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